Trump Reveals What Biden Said in Oval Office When Cameras Left
President-elect Donald Trump shared with the New York Post insights from his meeting with President Joe Biden at the White House on Wednesday.
Trump described the encounter, saying he and Biden “both really enjoyed seeing each other” despite the heated exchanges during their campaign. “You know, it’s been a long, it’s been a long slog,” Trump said in a phone interview as he departed Washington. “It’s been a lot of work on both sides, and he did a very good job with respect to campaigning and everything else. We really had a really good meeting.”
The conversation between the two leaders included discussions on the peaceful transfer of power set for January 20. Trump publicly assured Biden that it would be “as smooth as can be.” He affirmed to The Post, “It’s going very smoothly,” and noted that both his transition team and the current White House maintain a “very, very good relationship.”
Additionally, Trump mentioned that he and Biden spoke about international conflicts, specifically referencing Ukraine and the ongoing Middle East crisis involving Israel and Hamas. “I wanted — I asked for his views and he gave them to me,” Trump stated. “Also, we talked very much about the Middle East, likewise. I wanted to know his views on where we are and what he thinks. And he gave them to me, he was very gracious.”
Trump also revealed that they planned to meet again shortly before his inauguration, which Biden has already agreed to attend. “The Oval Office is so beautiful and I do certainly look forward [to coming back],” Trump shared. “We’ll have that very, very nice meeting that takes place between two presidents sometime prior.”
In response to Trump’s recent win, National Review's executive editor wrote a column urging Biden to extend an invitation to Trump and consider a pardon for his successor. While Biden did invite Trump, the possibility of a pardon remains uncertain.
“Biden should … move to use his constitutional authority to pardon Donald Trump of all pending federal charges and relieve special counsel Jack Smith of his duties,” wrote Mark Antonio Wright. He also suggested New York Governor Kathy Hochul should consider a similar pardon for any state convictions Trump faces.
Though Wright acknowledged Trump’s role in the charges against him, he emphasized that Trump’s popular and Electoral College victories represented “a definitive verdict on the subject delivered by the highest authority: the people.”
“Wise or not, a majority of the public chose to reelect Donald Trump as the next president of the United States. He deserves to enter that term in January 2025 with the slate wiped clean of the controversies of the previous era,” Wright remarked.
Wright warned that “no good at all will come of an American president fulfilling his constitutional duties at home and abroad under the cloud of pending criminal prosecutions” or by attempting a “self-pardoning.”
He argued that “Joe Biden has not often spent his time in office acting much like a statesman. But a pardon now of Donald Trump would be statesmanlike,” adding that such a move could break the cycle of political retaliation. Wright pointed to “Gerald Ford’s pardon of Richard Nixon” as an appropriate historical precedent.